維基大典:會館/存檔/庚子年
迎新之僕可遷書與自動創建用戶(跨維基用戶)
[纂]如題,大典鮮有增簿于本地者,皆立于他典(如通語大典),後惠訪我典。依mw:Extension:NewUserMessage/zh,可易$wgNewUserMessageOnAutoCreate之值為true。望諸君商議,若以為(+) 可也,則可報于phab。--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年一月二一日 (二) 〇三時四〇分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也,此事将同常徽一并报至phab。--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年一月二一日 (二) 〇四時〇二分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年一月二一日 (二) 一五時五四分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也。—— Eric Liu(留言.白話用戶頁) 二〇二〇年一月二一日 (二) 一七時一八分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也。—曈 ฅ • ω • ฅ 二〇二〇年一月二二日 (三) 〇三時五一分 (UTC)
phab:T243509--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年一月二三日 (四) 一二時五六分 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Folklore
[纂]Hello Folks,
Wiki Loves Love is back again in 2020 iteration as Wiki Loves Folklore from 1 February, 2020 - 29 February, 2020. Join us to celebrate the local cultural heritage of your region with the theme of folklore in the international photography contest at Wikimedia Commons. Images, videos and audios representing different forms of folk cultures and new forms of heritage that haven’t otherwise been documented so far are welcome submissions in Wiki Loves Folklore. Learn more about the contest at Meta-Wiki and Commons.
Kind regards,
Wiki Loves Folklore International Team
— Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk)
sent using MediaWiki message delivery(討論) 二〇二〇年一月一八日 (六) 〇六時一五分 (UTC)
徽标一事
[纂]万文徽期限将至,常徽可有?若无,则复用常徽。己亥腊月三十易之。
另,常徽须为svg,尺寸135*155。--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年一月一一日 (六) 一四時〇三分 (UTC)
- 答Ericliu1912:可製常徽否?--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年一月一八日 (六) 一一時五七分 (UTC)
Movement Learning and Leadership Development Project
[纂]Hello
The Wikimedia Foundation’s Community Development team is seeking to learn more about the way volunteers learn and develop into the many different roles that exist in the movement. Our goal is to build a movement informed framework that provides shared clarity and outlines accessible pathways on how to grow and develop skills within the movement. To this end, we are looking to speak with you, our community to learn about your journey as a Wikimedia volunteer. Whether you joined yesterday or have been here from the very start, we want to hear about the many ways volunteers join and contribute to our movement.
To learn more about the project, please visit the Meta page. If you are interested in participating in the project, please complete this simple Google form. Although we may not be able to speak to everyone who expresses interest, we encourage you to complete this short form if you are interested in participating!
-- LMiranda (WMF) (talk) 二〇二〇年一月二二日 (三) 一九時〇一分 (UTC)
有關新增討論頁衝突處理介面的資訊
[纂]Sorry, for writing this text in English. If you could help to translate it, it would be appreciated.
You might know the new interface for edit conflicts (currently a beta feature). Now, Wikimedia Germany is designing an additional interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This interface is shown to you when you write on a discussion page and another person writes a discussion post in the same line and saves it before you do. With this additional editing conflict interface you can adjust the order of the comments and edit your comment. We are inviting everyone to have a look at the planned feature. Let us know what you think on our central feedback page! -- For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) 二〇二〇年二月二六日 (三) 一四時一五分 (UTC)
- 您可能已經知曉維基有一個新的處理編輯衝突介面(現在是試行版)。而維基媒體德意志分會現在正在另外設計一種用於處理討論頁衝突的介面。當您在討論頁上書寫文字,且有其他人在同一個討論分段撰寫同一行,並早於您之前儲存編輯時,系統就會向您展示該介面。您可以通過使用此附加編輯衝突界面,來調整評論的順序並繼續編輯評論。我們誠邀所有人來計劃中的介面特徵(只有英語) 看看,並於中央意見回饋頁告知我們您的所思所想。-- For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) 二〇二〇年二月二六日 (三) 一四時一五分 (UTC)
- 翻譯署名:だ*ぜ(討論) 二〇二〇年四月四日 (六) 一七時三八分 (UTC)
Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools
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The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.
The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.
- On 31 March 2020, the new 回覆 tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
- The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
- an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
- a rich-text visual editing option, and
- other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.
To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.
– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)
二〇二〇年四月八日 (三) 一九時二七分 (UTC)
譯本
[纂]編輯团队一直在研究讨论页项目。 讨论页面项目的目标是帮助贡献者可以更轻松地在Wiki上进行交流。该项目是2019年讨论页面咨询的结果。
团队现在正在构建回复评论的新工具。早期版本可以自动签名和缩进评论。 请测试新的回复工具。
- 2020年3月31日,新版回覆工具作为测试功能在四个维基百科上提供:阿拉伯语、荷蘭语、 法语和匈牙利语。 如果您的社区也想提早使用新工具,请联系User:Whatamidoing (WMF)。
- 团队正在计划一些即将发生的更改。 请查看提議的设计,然后在讨论页面上分享您的想法。 团队将测试以下功能:
- 提及另一位编辑者的简单方法(“ping”),
- 富文本编辑选项和
- 通过用户测试确定或由编者推荐的其他功能。
要了解有关編輯团体的更多最新信息,请在项目页面的“参与其中”段落中添加您的用户名。 您还可以在以下页面上查看:主项目页面、更新、回复和用户测试。
– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)
2020年4月8日 (三) 19:27 (UTC)
引典據有疑
[纂]觀諸正典,其據從簡。辭雖暢達,其若自創。待察其所述,多古百家之流。欲述今之各道,凡諸工程科學之類,多溯至西方之學,故其引多著以西文。則何引以注辭?何以引之原西文? 「參壹:“參之《Modern Control System, Twelfth Edition》。” 參貳:“參之《今之制統 <十二校第> 》。”疑「參貳」失其本意。」 望諸君論之。 --中周應閒 (討論) 二〇一九年一一月二七日 (三) 一八時〇七分 (UTC)
- <ref>註釋</ref>。—关山 (修書) 二〇一九年一一月三〇日 (六) 二二時〇〇分 (UTC)
- 欲引外文之據,何以為?例:欲引其據以题「 Bandwidth Efficiency Improvement for Differential Alamouti Space-Time Block Codes Using M-QAM」,據之原文或譯文? 中周應閒 (討論) 二〇一九年一二月二日 (一) 一九時二九分 (UTC)
舉薦一利器,可示簿之權任
[纂]可於誌、哨所、監修等處示簿之權任,如司空、分校官。源碼於用戶:Rowingbohe/MarkRights.js,用戶:Rowingbohe/common.css,搬通語維基之小工具而製成。或可移至MediaWiki空間,改為簿註之器具,以為諸君所用。--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇一九年一〇月二七日 (日) 〇八時二一分 (UTC)
- 愚以为此器莫须有--—启明(留言) 二〇一九年一二月三〇日 (一) 〇二時二五分 (UTC)
朝代交錯之紀年
[纂]余編撰條目時,引用一年份為西元一六二二年者,查萬年曆,為明熹宗天啟二年或清太祖天命七年也。此時清未入中原,然而明、清皆為中國正統朝代,故紀年時應兩者皆書之,抑或純粹書其一?--德康(討論) 二〇二〇年五月二一日 (四) 一一時一一分 (UTC)
- 愚以为,纂西方事,则以西历。纂中华事,可以年号,若遇更迭,取其自号,纂明事以明号,纂清事以清号。若纂两朝交战之事,二者皆书。--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年五月三〇日 (六) 〇五時四二分 (UTC)
續秩公告
[纂]僕丁子不才,任有秩於大典,已有歲矣。今逢有秩期滿,若蒙諸公不厭,將請於元維基,更續某任,以竭駑鈍。拜。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年五月三日 (日) 一二時二六分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--Borschts(討論) 二〇二〇年五月三日 (日) 一二時三九分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年五月三日 (日) 一三時五七分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也 Zhaofeng-shu33(討論) 二〇二〇年五月三日 (日) 一四時二一分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也 --Lekhaki(討論) 二〇二〇年五月三日 (日) 一四時三一分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年五月三日 (日) 一四時三六分 (UTC)
已至七日,可報於中樞。--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年五月一〇日 (日) 〇三時二八分 (UTC)
- 佈告之時,僕已報於中樞矣。拜。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年五月一〇日 (日) 〇三時三一分 (UTC)
跨維基導入員
[纂]通語客棧正在討論此問題,將設立一個跨維基導入員。之前在大典互聯群征求了意見,大典的白話條目可以往那邊導,那邊的文言條目可以往這邊導。通語版已經進入公示,現在此同步公示。--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一二時四九分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也,此職可設。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一二時五一分 (UTC)
- 補充:通語那邊是設立專門用戶組,在zhwiki持有跨維基導入權限的用戶可以將其他語言的內容導入到zhwiki;大典貌似沒有必要另設權限,全體有秩自帶持有。需要導入的在提出合理理據 / 通語AFD等形成共識後,由大典有秩負責執行導入。--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一二時五二分 (UTC)
- 大典士希,有秩常兼巡查之務,增此亦無不可。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一二時五四分 (UTC)
- 在下不熟文言,就用通话说一下。建议同时确定导入来源,不然提交P站时候他们会问导入来源。不错提议,谢谢薄荷君提出。Camouflaged Mirage(討論) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一二時五六分 (UTC)
- 唯,我等將謹查之。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一二時五八分 (UTC)
- 有勞丁子改一下WP:簿之權限、WP:有秩等頁面的內容。--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一三時三三分 (UTC)
- WP:簿之權限已謹改畢;WP:有秩不列權限,故未改。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 二三時一八分 (UTC)
- 有勞丁子改一下WP:簿之權限、WP:有秩等頁面的內容。--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一三時三三分 (UTC)
- 唯,我等將謹查之。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一二時五八分 (UTC)
- 在下不熟文言,就用通话说一下。建议同时确定导入来源,不然提交P站时候他们会问导入来源。不错提议,谢谢薄荷君提出。Camouflaged Mirage(討論) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一二時五六分 (UTC)
- 大典士希,有秩常兼巡查之務,增此亦無不可。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年四月一一日 (六) 一二時五四分 (UTC)
模板:Weather box
[纂]天氣盒可用於顯示一地之氣候數據(範例可見吉隆坡),然而模板之生成內容皆阿拉伯數字。愚以為大典應以漢數字為主,惟此模板構造甚密,愚無力修改;又使用漢數字將使表格大幅加寬,有礙美觀。望諸君論之。—曈 ฅ • ω • ฅ 二〇二〇年一月一日 (三) 〇八時四二分 (UTC)
- 所涉颇多。若直取中文数值,机器不可辩。--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年一月一一日 (六) 一四時一三分 (UTC)
- —曈 ฅ • ω • ฅ 二〇二〇年一月一四日 (二) 〇七時〇六分 (UTC)
- 若如此,底无色。--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年一月一七日 (五) 〇六時四六分 (UTC)
- 求教Xiplus君。吾當何為?—曈 ฅ • ω • ฅ 二〇二〇年一月二一日 (二) 〇八時〇七分 (UTC)
最終以中文數字示之即可。君可修之否? - 若如此,底无色。--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年一月一七日 (五) 〇六時四六分 (UTC)
- —曈 ฅ • ω • ฅ 二〇二〇年一月一四日 (二) 〇七時〇六分 (UTC)
續秩佈告
[纂]余才疏學淺, 承蒙諸君抬爱, 任有秩奇年, 兼領司空,今秩且至, 若諸君以為可也, 將請于元维基, 以求續任, 庶竭駑鈍,拜上。—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年五月二一日 (四) 一一時三〇分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--薰蘭(討論) 二〇二〇年五月二一日 (四) 一三時一一分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年五月二三日 (六) 一二時四三分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二〇年六月七日 (日) 〇四時三〇分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也。—— Eric Liu(留言.通語用戶頁) 二〇二〇年六月一〇日 (三) 一五時一一分 (UTC)
Some CSS for Vector has been simplified
[纂]您好!
I'd like to make a double-check about a change that was announced in Tech/News/2020/21.
Over-qualified CSS selectors have been changed. div#p-personal
, div#p-navigation
, div#p-interaction
, div#p-tb
, div#p-lang
, div#p-namespaces
or div#p-variants
are now all removed of the div
qualifier, as in for example it is #p-personal, #p-navigation …
. This is so the skins can use HTML5 elements. If your gadgets or user styles used them you will have to update them. This only impacts the Vector skin.
On this wiki, this impacted or still impacts the following pages:
How to proceed now? Just visit all these pages and remove div
before these CSS selectors if it hasn't been removed so far.
感謝您! SGrabarczuk (WMF)(討論) 二〇二〇年五月二五日 (一) 一三時二六分 (UTC)
Editing news 2020 #2
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This issue of the Editing newsletter includes information the Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily.
- Reply tool: This is available as a Beta Feature at the four partner wikis (Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian Wikipedias). The Beta Feature is called "討論工具". The Beta Feature will get new features soon. The new features include writing comments in a new visual editing mode and pinging other users by typing
@
. You can test the new features on the Beta Cluster now. Some other wikis will have a chance to try the Beta Feature in the coming months. - New requirements for user signatures: Soon, users will not be able to save invalid custom signatures in Special:Preferences. This will reduce signature spoofing, prevent page corruption, and make new talk page tools more reliable. Most editors will not be affected.
- New discussion tool: The Editing team is beginning work on a simpler process for starting new discussions. You can see the initial design on the project page.
- Research on the use of talk pages: The Editing team worked with the Wikimedia research team to study how talk pages help editors improve articles. We learned that new editors who use talk pages make more edits to the main namespace than new editors who don't use talk pages.
二〇二〇年六月一七日 (三) 二〇時三三分 (UTC)
增察禁訴模板
[纂]增察禁訴模{{BlockAppeal}},另攥MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext,訴察禁,求IP例外可用,特此公示。另,該模之文言名未定,可議於此處。--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年六月一四日 (日) 〇四時二三分 (UTC)
- 名曰「禁訴」即可矣。—— Eric Liu(留言.通語用戶頁) 二〇二〇年六月一八日 (四) 〇四時一四分 (UTC)
Editing news 2020 #3
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Seven years ago this month, the Editing team offered the visual editor to most Wikipedia editors. Since then, editors have achieved many milestones:
- More than 50 million edits have been made using the visual editor on desktop.
- More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
- The visual editor is increasingly popular. The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has increased every year since its introduction.
- In 2019, 35% of the edits by newcomers (logged-in editors with ≤99 edits) used the visual editor. This percentage has increased every year.
- Almost 5 million edits on the mobile site have been made with the visual editor. Most of these edits have been made since the Editing team started improving the mobile visual editor in 2018.
- On 17 November 2019, the first edit from outer space was made in the mobile visual editor. 🚀 👩🚀
- Editors have made more than 7 million edits in the 2017 wikitext editor, including starting 600,000 new articles in it. The 2017 wikitext editor is VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode. You can enable it in your preferences.
二〇二〇年七月九日 (四) 一二時五五分 (UTC)
Feedback on movement names
[纂]您好. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. 請協助翻譯成您使用的語言 if necessary. 感謝您!
There are a lot of conversations happening about the future of our movement names. We hope that you are part of these discussions and that your community is represented.
Since 16 June, the Foundation Brand Team has been running a survey in 7 languages about 3 naming options. There are also community members sharing concerns about renaming in a Community Open Letter.
Our goal in this call for feedback is to hear from across the community, so we encourage you to participate in the survey, the open letter, or both. The survey will go through 7 July in all timezones. Input from the survey and discussions will be analyzed and published on Meta-Wiki.
Thanks for thinking about the future of the movement, --The Brand Project team, 二〇二〇年七月二日 (四) 一九時四二分 (UTC)
Note: The survey is conducted via a third-party service, which may subject it to additional terms. For more information on privacy and data-handling, see the survey privacy statement.
Annual contest Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos
[纂]This is to invite you to join the Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos (WPWP) campaign to help improve Wikipedia articles with photos and win prizes. The campaign starts today 1st July 2020 and closes 31st August 2020.
The campaign primarily aims at using images from Wikimedia Commons on Wikipedia articles that are lacking images. Participants will choose among Wikipedia pages without photo images, then add a suitable file from among the many thousands of photos in the Wikimedia Commons, especially those uploaded from thematic contests (Wiki Loves Africa, Wiki Loves Earth, Wiki Loves Folklore, etc.) over the years.
Please visit the campaign page to learn more about the WPWP Campaign.
With kind regards,
Thank you,
Deborah Schwartz Jacobs, Communities Liaison, On behalf of the Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos Organizing Team - 二〇二〇年七月一日 (三) 〇八時二四分 (UTC)
feel free to translate this message to your local language when this helps your community
我打算重新在元维基提出关闭你站的提案/告诸侪余之将复议关闭贵站于元站书
[纂]- 此題已結案,諸君莫改其文。新議請至於框外。
以下是我的一点愚见,希望大家能批判指正,不胜感激:
1,关于大典的功用:大典不能在向大众传播知识的方面起到任何功用。大典几乎没有比中文维百写的更详尽的篇目,而且也很难做到这一点;大典亦起不到中日越韩互通有无的作用,因为那种“不会汉语却会文言汉字”的人现在已经几乎不存在了,随着现代科技的普及,全方位的汉语学习资源已经向日越韩地区的人敞开,只要他们想,他们就可以全面学习汉语,这种情况下可以直接沟通到中文维百,无需文言作为中介。因此大典唯一的功用就是对古语言的保存。但是这个事情真的有必要靠大典吗?恐怕不是的,中文和英语或者许多其他语言不同,古英语一旦消亡,没人用就是没人用了;文言则不然,文言不作为口语流通已经很久了,可不也流传到今天了吗?这是因为文言跟古英语等其他古语言的地位、性质有根本不同,社会已经可以形成充足的流通性了,因此完全不需要大典来配合。
2,那么,诸位可能会说,尽管如此,难不成还多大典一份气力不成?就算大典不能起到主要功用,难道还不可以起辅助功用吗?这就要说到文言在今天的一个特殊性了。文言在今日已经不重视“写”,单单侧重于“读”,我们今日只侧重于对阅读文言的能力的教学,而不重视对文言创作能力的教学,因此,今日社会上已经没有多少合格的文言创作者了,就连中华人民共和国修清史,都找不到合格的文言创作者来创作文言版,这些国家级学者都不行,更不要说诸位了。我们想象一下,假如现在有一个随便什么语言,我们不妨随便给它起个名字,比如说“拉格利斯语”,有一个社群申请想要创造这么一个语言版本的维基百科,结果后来有人发现这个社群无一人会“拉格利斯语”,他们完全是在写一些自己想象中的拉格利斯语,这种情况下,是不是应该关掉这个版本的维基百科呢?在你站,很不幸的,事实就是如此。譬如说你站经典典范条目“亚当斯密”,从第一句到最后一句,句句都有语病(我的这个观点有跟薄荷说过),甚至这个标题“斯密亚当”都不太符合文言习惯,历朝历代从未有以这种方式作为官方译法的时候,又譬如我前些天改过一个条目——我亦非专家,然而还是有自信比那个条目的几个作者更精于文言一点的,关于这个条目诸君可以查阅我的贡献记录——居然放着“万岁”这个词不用,去自己生造一个“庆哉”;且放着“警察”一词不用去用“捕房”。“万岁”这个词是从古至今流传下来的词,论文言也算是很“文言”的老资历了,放着不用去自己造一个“庆哉”;“警察”是大清官方文言文档里有的国家部门与职位名称,放着不用去用洋人在租界创造的“捕房”一词,由此可见,许多你站编辑者并非想要使用“文言”,他们只是想要使用一些不那么平常的词语来显示自己的标新立异罢了,而并非真的在思考怎么写是“文言”的。这虽然只是一个小条目,却颇可以“一叶知秋”地体现你站不少编辑者的不良习气,这股氛围导致你站条目均是千疮百孔,语病累累。
因此,我希望将你站打回孵化场,诸位有兴趣的还是先再多练练笔,切实提升自己的文笔以后再出山卖艺吧。
附:离我准备正式提交提案的节点还有一段时间,我欢迎诸君前来交流意见,如果诸君能够先行提出可以说服我的意见,那么我也不去元维基另生事端了(回复者请at我!!!)。
另附:实则真正精通文言的人也不会来这里,因为一般来说喜欢文言的都是和文言有距离的人才会有距离美感,然而既然“有距离”,自然也不像能写好文言的人(见鲁迅《估<学衡>》)。
某实瞡瞡,妄作冲撞贵典,某之异议者有二。
一,典之用。典非所以传识解惑于世者也,以典无详于中维之篇,亦无详于中维之力。中日越韩亦不可互通有无于典,以今日之欲习汉者可直通言语无需介于文言也。直通汉语者,亦可直通中维,典其不用也。故典之用,不在于世。典之用者,在存续道统,唯道统其不依典而存也。何哉,在汉,夷之异。夷文重音,言语不通,则使用亦亡,而汉其弗是也。文言之不通于言语者,已千年矣,而文言存焉。故文言存续,社会之力备矣,与夷文异焉。
二,虽然,则或曰,典纵非存续主力,然不可为佐乎。曰,今日文言,重读不重写。而能写文言者湮焉。官修清史[註 一]不能文言。官修清史者,国之学者,读书种子也,然则不能文言,何况诸侪乎。若有某语,群小呼立分站,及其站立也,则无一人通是语,皆胡作其臆中是语,何如。曰,必退回其站。贵站亦如是。譬如亚当斯密,典范条目也,自首至尾,句句有语病,且斯密亚当者,亦甚乖也,无一代规矩如是。某亦不才,然尝试修一条目[註 二],见贵站之人,弃万岁于不用,自造庆哉,弃警察于不用,别采捕房。万岁者,千秋万代之词也,不至于不文言,而庆哉生造,警察者,大清钦定也,而捕房洋风。其所以弃万岁,警察于不用而纳庆哉,捕房者,盖叶公好龙。非真好文言者,好立异耳,非欣于古语,喜掂僻词。是虽小篇,可见一斑,贵站风气如是也。是故贵站篇目,皆千疮百孔,语病累累。
所以某愿退贵站于婴篮,望贵站志士,多加练习,手艺颇精后,再出来面世也。
附,实则真通文言者,大历不来此处,以其真通文言。迫切来此者,皆所谓距离产生美者也。有距离者,其不精焉,详例可见鲁迅估学衡一篇。
慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一七時三四分 (UTC)
既然是涉及到贵站存废的事情我也不搞偷袭,我现在把所有的管理员,也就是你们称为“有秩”(这名字幼稚死了)的都at出来:答itsmine:答Davidzdh:答夏侯韬:答丁子君:答WAN233:答Rowingbohe: 其实说了这么多我的观点简而言之也可以写成一句话:你站没有文言文,你站只有文盲文,甚至丈育丈。慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時一三分 (UTC)
我写的太长了,为了方便大家回复还是另外开一个标题吧
[纂]《维基大典》其實已經達到獨立wiki的標準,《维基大典》实既得立wiki也。故我以为,《维基大典》所以打回孵化場其實不太可能,《维基大典》打回孵化場实不甚可得。--Kitabc12345(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一七時〇八分 (UTC)
- 答Kitabc12345:我都说了我还没写完,您偏偏要先留言😂慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一七時四三分 (UTC)
- K君所言甚是。況撼動大典而得逞者未有之,老法師由哪來便回哪去,專注自家維基足矣。—关山 (修書) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時二七分 (UTC)
復書
[纂]答慎言慎行老法师:法師公鈞鑒:大典啟封、厥文質優劣姑不論,公乃大典文士,言須守禮,以「你站不少编辑者的不良习气」「显示自己的标新立异罢了」「切实提升自己的文笔以后再出山卖艺吧」等語,豈非以言刺人,不予我眾尺寸之地乎?望公察之。
公復以大典文質不彰,語病甚繁,故以是必歸站巢。竊以為維基項目三千,無一無敝文陋篇者,其小者猶眾,而必皆閉站歸巢,隱於觀者乎?即通語大典,入「隨機條目」之門,每每得此,其譯於他山而不通順者,亦不鮮見。此恐非廢大典之理也。且以鄙人觀之,亞當斯密諸文文辭頗正,雖不得及於古人,亦通順可解焉,敢請教以語病安在。
公以大典無用於通有無於東國,竊未敢以為然。大典之文士出乎日、韓者,未嘗寡也,如日本政區之文,多為日言某公所作,其文辭固雅也,而於通語固不能也。此不敢謂大典之功,惟足見文言之為津梁也。
至於大典之文言,悉為臆造,非真文言,竊以為古書俱存,辭書汗漫,而新詞之造,古今中外皆有之,鄙人誠未見大典文言焉虛,敢以此請公教焉。
頓首。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時一四分 (UTC)
- 答丁子君:觉得我白话文“不够礼”的就去读文言文,毕竟我白话文是使用共和[註 一]思维的白话写的,当然比不上文言文慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時一八分 (UTC)
- 答慎言慎行老法师:您好,從您剛剛的發言來看,您已經在人身攻擊了,請您至少停止這一點,我們再討論,謝謝。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時二〇分 (UTC)
- ↑ 即“all men are created equal
- 答丁子君:你若奇怪我为什么说亚当斯密的文章有问题,“句句语病”,不妨把它的全保护试着放开容我编辑给您看看慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時二三分 (UTC)
- 答慎言慎行老法师:您不妨寫個Draft。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時二四分 (UTC)
- 答丁子君:至于你说每个语言版本都有语病,这是个哪多哪少的问题,一般的语言版本是大环境完好,小细节不佳;你站大环境就满是语病了,不能同日而语。你说创造新词历来皆有,哪有抛弃“万岁”用“庆哉”,抛弃“警察”用捕房的?又哪有抛弃“首相”用“首辅”的?慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時二八分 (UTC)
- 用詞有爭議,言明即可,與文法何涉。果有謬誤,聞過則喜,胡不如是。未見稍不合心意則大謀隳滅者若是。此閉館之言,全無討論之意,但肆意塗鴉而已。—关山 (修書) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時三五分 (UTC)
- 答Davidzdh:恐怕不做討論態度的是您,因為您似乎都沒有把我的意見仔細讀一遍慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時四一分 (UTC)
- 用詞有爭議,言明即可,與文法何涉。果有謬誤,聞過則喜,胡不如是。未見稍不合心意則大謀隳滅者若是。此閉館之言,全無討論之意,但肆意塗鴉而已。—关山 (修書) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時三五分 (UTC)
答丁子君:另外您提到的日韓編輯,只能寫文言寫不了白話的,能不能給我個鏈接,告訴我具體是哪位?我去考察一下,如果確實還有這種人的話或許也是可以保留貴站的理由慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一八時五六分 (UTC)
- 雪球關閉。沒有一句話與meta:Closing projects policy相干,在這裏浪費本站管理者時間,在元維基浪費langcom時間。亞里史提普士(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一九時〇二分 (UTC)
- 答AristippusSer:非也,我已經講明白關閉你社群的理由了:無本語言精通使用者慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一九時一五分 (UTC)
- 答慎言慎行老法师: For future reference: Not meeting the current Language proposal policy requirements is not a valid reason. 2018的PCP相同理據已被駁回,建議以後再有類似提案直接以擾亂關閉以免浪費衆人時間。亞里史提普士(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一九時二八分 (UTC)
- 答AristippusSer:非也,我已經講明白關閉你社群的理由了:無本語言精通使用者慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一九時一五分 (UTC)
可以关闭讨论了,我考察过了,贵站确实还有只能使用文言(而且使用的还不错)的日韩作者,出于这个原因,也还可以作为日文/韩文维基与中文维基的中转站。因此我不会申请打回你站了。慎言慎行老法师(討論) 二〇二〇年七月三日 (五) 一九時二四分 (UTC)
- 仁者安仁,知者利仁。不卑不亢,吾人所取。願足下能同遊,文以載道,造福後學。--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二〇年七月四日 (六) 〇二時一三分 (UTC)
- 哦--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年七月四日 (六) 〇五時五五分 (UTC)
- 吾以為,其欲毀典,可禁之。--忒有钱(討論) 二〇二〇年七月六日 (一) 〇八時一三分 (UTC)
Announcing a new wiki project! Welcome, Abstract Wikipedia
[纂]Hi all,
It is my honor to introduce Abstract Wikipedia, a new project that has been unanimously approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Abstract Wikipedia proposes a new way to generate baseline encyclopedic content in a multilingual fashion, allowing more contributors and more readers to share more knowledge in more languages. It is an approach that aims to make cross-lingual cooperation easier on our projects, increase the sustainability of our movement through expanding access to participation, improve the user experience for readers of all languages, and innovate in free knowledge by connecting some of the strengths of our movement to create something new.
This is our first new project in over seven years. Abstract Wikipedia was submitted as a project proposal by Denny Vrandečić in May 2020 [一] after years of preparation and research, leading to a detailed plan and lively discussions in the Wikimedia communities. We know that the energy and the creativity of the community often runs up against language barriers, and information that is available in one language may not make it to other language Wikipedias. Abstract Wikipedia intends to look and feel like a Wikipedia, but build on the powerful, language-independent conceptual models of Wikidata, with the goal of letting volunteers create and maintain Wikipedia articles across our polyglot Wikimedia world.
The project will allow volunteers to assemble the fundamentals of an article using words and entities from Wikidata. Because Wikidata uses conceptual models that are meant to be universal across languages, it should be possible to use and extend these building blocks of knowledge to create models for articles that also have universal value. Using code, volunteers will be able to translate these abstract “articles” into their own languages. If successful, this could eventually allow everyone to read about any topic in Wikidata in their own language.
As you can imagine, this work will require a lot of software development, and a lot of cooperation among Wikimedians. In order to make this effort possible, Denny will join the Foundation as a staff member in July and lead this initiative. You may know Denny as the creator of Wikidata, a long-time community member, a former staff member at Wikimedia Deutschland, and a former Trustee at the Wikimedia Foundation [二]. We are very excited that Denny will bring his skills and expertise to work on this project alongside the Foundation’s product, technology, and community liaison teams.
It is important to acknowledge that this is an experimental project, and that every Wikipedia community has different needs. This project may offer some communities great advantages. Other communities may engage less. Every language Wikipedia community will be free to choose and moderate whether or how they would use content from this project.
We are excited that this new wiki-project has the possibility to advance knowledge equity through increased access to knowledge. It also invites us to consider and engage with critical questions about how and by whom knowledge is constructed. We look forward to working in cooperation with the communities to think through these important questions.
There is much to do as we begin designing a plan for Abstract Wikipedia in close collaboration with our communities. I encourage you to get involved by going to the project page and joining the new mailing list [三]. We recognize that Abstract Wikipedia is ambitious, but we also recognize its potential. We invite you all to join us on a new, unexplored path.
Yours,
Katherine Maher (Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation)
Sent by m:User:Elitre (WMF) 二〇二〇年七月九日 (四) 二〇時一〇分 (UTC) - m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/July 2020 announcement
議:更易大典之徽標
[纂]- 此題已結案,諸君莫改其文。新議請至於框外。
通語維基人刘枭扬,覺大典徽標文字不妥,欲善之,故以「源流明體」重製匾文,形跡如此:
余以為「維」字左下之三點,不合傳統。而劉君之圖,取古風字形,又宏偉莊重。另「源流明體」乃自由字型,無觸犯律令之憂,故代其倡議於此。願聞諸君高見。--高文海(討論) 二〇二〇年五月二六日 (二) 〇一時三八分 (UTC)
- 有勞。惟自古匾額,悉以隸楷,鮮以明體,蓋明體用諸內文。--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二〇年五月二六日 (二) 〇七時二九分 (UTC)
- 依吾所見,此處之徽標用隸楷,或予人「盜版網站」之感。論及現行徽標之楷體,或過於現代,並未能予人大典應予人之觀感,現擬議徽標之明體則可;若仍用楷體,宜用魏碑體或與其相近之字形。Sanmosa 1984 二〇二〇年六月七日 (日) 〇四時一七分 (UTC)
- 余以為隸楷無罪,未知何至於盜。明體向不為題,蓋其始即內文字體也。--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二〇年六月七日 (日) 〇四時二九分 (UTC)
- 同孔明君--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年五月二七日 (三) 一一時一三分 (UTC)
- 本人非爲此維基之常客,但亦覺可行也。謝君子之獻。Oshawott 12(討論) 二〇二〇年六月三日 (三) 一五時〇二分 (UTC)
- 吾亦欲提議,可將「深淵學問 正雅辭文」八字由右至左書,方可統一格式。Oshawott 12(討論) 二〇二〇年六月三日 (三) 一五時一一分 (UTC) 我方判斷錯誤。Oshawott 12(討論) 二〇二〇年六月三日 (三) 一五時一九分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也。先前大典萬文,吾等議徽標之事,亦覺可易舊徽之字形。今勞劉公製新徽,甚善。--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年六月一〇日 (三) 一五時〇八分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也。—— Eric Liu(留言.通語用戶頁) 二〇二〇年六月一〇日 (三) 一五時一〇分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--StarryHome(討論) 二〇二〇年六月一七日 (三) 〇四時四九分 (UTC)
以二〇二〇年六月一八日 (四) 〇三時五六分 (UTC)为止:
- 以为可者:高文海,Sanmosa,Oshawott 12,Rowingbohe,Eric Liu,StarryHome(仅Rowingbohe,Eric Liu常驻大典,计二)。
- 以为不可者:孔明居士,启明(计二)。
此议已至三周,四周即止。--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年六月一八日 (四) 〇三時五六分 (UTC)
- (-) 不可:吾之所意同孔明居士所述之意也。--忒有钱(討論) 二〇二〇年六月二一日 (日) 二〇時〇五分 (UTC)
余亦非常駐大典者,然聞諸君之意,余有一計。南朝鮮人作之UnGungseo楷書字型 [一],其漢字從古體,而以GPLv2授權公之於衆,竊以爲可用之也。諸君意下如何?--亞里史提普士(討論) 二〇二〇年六月二二日 (一) 〇二時四四分 (UTC)
再試
[纂]承蒙孔明居士與亞里史提普士高見,余取UnGungseo楷書,再製一圖:
試問可否。--高文海(討論) 二〇二〇年六月二二日 (一) 一五時〇四分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--StarryHome(討論) 二〇二〇年六月二三日 (二) 二三時〇〇分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也。--忒有钱(討論) 二〇二〇年六月二五日 (四) 〇七時三六分 (UTC)
新徽
[纂]孔明君邀得高人,手书“维基大典”四字,为大典新徽。另以王汉宗行书(GPLv2)制“文辞雅正 学问渊深”八字,隶书为题,落款行书,正合古法。--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年六月三〇日 (二) 〇五時五六分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年六月三〇日 (二) 〇五時五六分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也—关山 (修書) 二〇二〇年六月三〇日 (二) 〇六時一〇分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年六月三〇日 (二) 〇七時一〇分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也 --孔明居士(討論) 二〇二〇年六月三〇日 (二) 〇七時五八分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也,另,何故于大典以簡化字纂文之?--忒有钱(討論) 二〇二〇年七月一日 (三) 一五時四一分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也,妙哉。--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年七月一八日 (六) 一三時一九分 (UTC)
phab:T259006--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年七月二八日 (二) 〇八時一九分 (UTC)
- (✓)畢--evrifaessa ❯❯❯ talk 二〇二〇年八月一七日 (一) 一一時四七分 (UTC)
- 感謝!--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二〇年八月一八日 (二) 〇六時二六分 (UTC)
Technical Wishes: FileExporter and FileImporter become default features on all Wikis
[纂]The FileExporter and FileImporter will become a default features on all wikis until August 7, 2020. They are planned to help you to move files from your local wiki to Wikimedia Commons easier while keeping all original file information (Description, Source, Date, Author, View History) intact. Additionally, the move is documented in the files view history. How does it work?
Step 1: If you are an auto-confirmed user, you will see a link "Move file to Wikimedia Commons" on the local file page.
Step 2: When you click on this link, the FileImporter checks if the file can in fact be moved to Wikimedia Commons. These checks are performed based on the wiki's configuration file which is created and maintained by each local wiki community.
Step 3: If the file is compatible with Wikimedia Commons, you will be taken to an import page, at which you can update or add information regarding the file, such as the description. You can also add the 'Now Commons' template to the file on the local wiki by clicking the corresponding check box in the import form. Admins can delete the file from the local wiki by enabling the corresponding checkbox. By clicking on the 'Import' button at the end of the page, the file is imported to Wikimedia Commons.
If you want to know more about the FileImporter extension or the Technical Wishes Project, follow the links. --For the Technical Wishes Team:Max Klemm (WMDE) 二〇二〇年八月六日 (四) 〇九時一四分 (UTC)
Important: maintenance operation on September 1st
[纂]Read this message in another language • 請協助翻譯成您使用的語言
The Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its secondary data centre. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic to the secondary data centre on Tuesday, September 1st 2020.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, September 1st. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 19:30 IST, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday September 2).
- If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects:
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- There will be code freezes for the week of September 1st, 2020. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community.
Trizek (WMF) (talk) 二〇二〇年八月二六日 (三) 一三時四九分 (UTC)
New Wikipedia Library Collections Now Available (September 2020)
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Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing new free, full-access, accounts to reliable sources as part of our research access program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials on the Library Card platform:
- Al Manhal – Arabic journals and ebooks
- Ancestry.com – Genealogical and historical records
- RILM – Music encyclopedias
Many other partnerships are listed on our partners page, including Adam Matthew, EBSCO, Gale and JSTOR.
A significant portion of our collection now no longer requires individual applications to access! Read more in our recent blog post.
Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 二〇二〇年九月三日 (四) 〇九時四九分 (UTC)
- This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.
Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric
[纂]您好. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. 請協助翻譯成您使用的語言.
Today the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees starts two calls for feedback. One is about changes to the Bylaws mainly to increase the Board size from 10 to 16 members. The other one is about a trustee candidate rubric to introduce new, more effective ways to evaluate new Board candidates. The Board welcomes your comments through 26 October. For more details, check the full announcement.
Important: maintenance operation on October 27
[纂]Read this message in another language • 請協助翻譯成您使用的語言
The Wikimedia Foundation tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, October 27 2020.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, October 27. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (14:00 WET, 15:00 CET, 10:00 EDT, 19:30 IST, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 03:00 NZDT on Wednesday October 28).
- If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects:
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- There will be code freezes for the week of October 26, 2020. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.
-- Trizek (WMF) (talk) 二〇二〇年一〇月二一日 (三) 一七時一一分 (UTC)
法學名詞
[纂]為著法文,苦思再三,不得而終;曾尋關山兄,亦不得善終。恐不能,惟尋思眾議,望賜教。暫撰五,終而復問。拜謝。——だ*ぜ (對話) 二〇一九年六月一四日 (五) 一六時〇六分 (UTC)
通語 | 雅文(眾皆可易) | 憂思 |
---|---|---|
拘留 | 古無暫押者,不知何譯。 | |
逮捕 | 與「拘留」者,何以別之? | |
法庭 | 訟廷 | 衙門有別,公堂有異。 |
無罪推定 | 安雅否野? | |
上訴 | 上控 | 古無上訴。 |
聆訊 | ||
法官 | 按察司 | 舊香港與清朝稱謂,不知可否。 |
監察院 | 都察院 | 源於清,惟民國亦存古風,不能斷。 |
- 如果不是英文就保留專有名詞好了,翻譯成文言有可能會失去原來的意思。--薄荷糖批判 二〇一九年六月一五日 (六) 〇二時三四分 (UTC)
- 清末學部術語,“法庭、上訴”作“訟廷、上控”,餘則不知。——勝爲士 (對話) 二〇一九年六月一五日 (六) 〇九時二九分 (UTC)
- 此乃「文言」大典,非「古文」大典。今名若合文言之文法,亦可從之,無需強求古名。今名若不合文言之文法,可議之。 --Yejianfei (對話) 二〇一九年七月二一日 (日) 一一時〇八分 (UTC)
- 王力公《古代漢語》云,吏,法官也。例云:報任安書「因為誣上,卒從吏議」;過秦論上「俛首係頸,委命下吏」[一]。--丁子君 (對話) 二〇一九年七月二六日 (五) 一〇時〇六分 (UTC)
- 不宜。吏者泛甚,但凡為官位輕者,皆可謂之吏,非法官者獨擁;再者,今法官者非吏部所屬。是故不可謂之吏。然可渡之。——だ*ぜ (對話) 二〇一九年八月六日 (二) 一一時一八分 (UTC)
- 唯唯,僕記諸是以利參考耳。--丁子君 (對話) 二〇一九年八月七日 (三) 〇二時五三分 (UTC)
- 不宜。吏者泛甚,但凡為官位輕者,皆可謂之吏,非法官者獨擁;再者,今法官者非吏部所屬。是故不可謂之吏。然可渡之。——だ*ぜ (對話) 二〇一九年八月六日 (二) 一一時一八分 (UTC)
- 上述詞彙,似無不文之處,可直用之?—关山 (修書) 二〇一九年九月一四日 (六) 〇五時〇一分 (UTC)
- 同意直用。--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二〇年三月八日 (日) 〇四時一八分 (UTC)
- 然,可如此結案。——だ*ぜ(討論) 二〇二〇年四月四日 (六) 一七時四一分 (UTC)
註據
- ↑ 王力(主編)、吉常宏、祝敏徹、馬漢麟、郭錫良、許嘉璐、趙克勤、劉益之、蕭璋(編者) 古代漢語(校訂重排本)第二冊 ; ISBN 978-7-101-00083-2
大典十四年賀聯
[纂]庚子七夕,大典十四年,愚有一計,佈賀聯于卷首,載贺诗于詩詞賞析,試問諸君可否?若可,敬求佳作?--—启明(留言) 二〇二〇年六月二八日 (日) 一五時三四分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也。拙作一首,拋磚引玉。
- 惜分陰齊撰維基 萬千文章莫束閣
- 修徑路共成大典 十四年華更問津
--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二〇年六月二八日 (日) 二二時四七分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也—关山 (修書) 二〇二〇年六月三〇日 (二) 〇六時一一分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年六月三〇日 (二) 〇七時一〇分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年七月二四日 (五) 一五時二五分 (UTC)
- 小人認為(+) 可也。--阿爾克雷米Alcremie君(留言) 二〇二〇年七月二七日 (一) 二〇時一五分 (UTC)
文庫正議新徽之事
[纂]本典或白話本之自證其簿,可移玉步至s:zh:Wikisource:投票#维基文库图标。--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇二〇年八月九日 (日) 〇九時三八分 (UTC)
Wiki of functions naming contest
[纂]請協助翻譯成您使用的語言
您好. Please help pick a name for the new Wikimedia wiki project. This project will be a wiki where the community can work together on a library of functions. The community can create new functions, read about them, discuss them, and share them. Some of these functions will be used to help create language-independent Wikipedia articles that can be displayed in any language, as part of the Abstract Wikipedia project. But functions will also be usable in many other situations.
There will be two rounds of voting, each followed by legal review of candidates, with voting beginning on 29 September and 27 October. Our goal is to have a final project name selected on 8 December. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at meta-wiki. 感謝您! --Quiddity (WMF)二〇二〇年九月二九日 (二) 二一時二三分 (UTC)
Wikidata descriptions changes to be included more often in Recent Changes and Watchlist
[纂]Sorry for sending this message in English. Translations are available on this page. Feel free to translate it in more languages!
As you may know, you can include changes coming from Wikidata in your Watchlist and Recent Changes (in your preferences). Until now, this feature didn’t always include changes made on Wikidata descriptions due to the way Wikidata tracks the data used in a given article.
Starting on December 3rd, the Watchlist and Recent Changes will include changes on the descriptions of Wikidata Items that are used in the pages that you watch. This will only include descriptions in the language of your wiki to make sure that you’re only seeing changes that are relevant to your wiki.
This improvement was requested by many users from different projects. We hope that it can help you monitor the changes on Wikidata descriptions that affect your wiki and participate in the effort of improving the data quality on Wikidata for all Wikimedia wikis and beyond.
Note: if you didn’t use the Wikidata watchlist integration feature for a long time, feel free to give it another chance! The feature has been improved since the beginning and the content it displays is more precise and useful than at the beginning of the feature in 2015.
If you encounter any issue or want to provide feedback, feel free to use this Phabricator ticket. Thanks!
Global bot policy proposal: invitation to a Meta discussion
[纂]您好!
I apologize for sending a message in English. 請協助翻譯成您使用的語言. According to the list, your wiki project currently is opted in to the global bot policy. Under this policy, bots that fix double redirects or maintain interwiki links are allowed to operate under a global bot flag that is assigned directly by the stewards.
As the Wikimedia projects developed, the need for the current global bot policy decreased, and in the past years, no bots were appointed via that policy. That is mainly given Wikidata were estabilished in 2013, and it is no longer necessary to have dozens of bots that maintain interwiki links.
A proposal was made at Meta-Wiki, which proposes that the stewards will be authorized to determine whether an uncontroversial task may be assigned a global bot flag. The stewards already assign permissions that are more impactful on many wikis, namely, global sysops and global renamers, and I do not think that trust should be an issue. The stewards will assign the permission only to time-proven bots that are already approved at a number of projects, like ListeriaBot.
By this message, I would like to invite you to comment in the global RFC, to voice your opinion about this matter.
Thank you for your time.
Best regards,
Martin Urbanec (議) 二〇二〇年一一月二四日 (二) 一一時四九分 (UTC)
您好!
我抱歉使用英语发送消息。请帮助翻译为您的语言。根据 此列表,您的 Wiki 项目当前加入了 全域机器人政策。在此政策下,修复 双重重定向或维护跨维基链接的机器人被允许在监管员 (stewards) 直接分配给机器人的全域机器人标记 (global bot flag) 下工作。
随着维基媒体项目的发展,对全域机器人政策的需求在降低,而且在近几年里没有机器人依照该政策被指定。此现象的主要原因是维基数据 (Wikidata) 在2013年创建,并不再需要数十个机器人来维护跨维基链接。
元维基上现有一个 提案,该提案建议监管员应有权限决定一个无争议的任务是否可以被分配全域机器人标记。监管员已经在许多维基有影响更大的权限,例如 全域管理员 和 全域重命名者,而且我不认为信任是一个问题。监管员将仅为经过时间验证并在多个项目被认可的机器人直接赋予权限,例如 ListeriaBot。
我发送本消息是要邀请您在 全域RFC 评论,发表您的观点。
感谢您的时间。
此致, Martin Urbanec (議) 二〇二〇年一一月二四日 (二) 一一時四九分 (UTC)
以上译文由 User670839245(讨论|本地贡献|本地封禁 (本地封禁日志)) 于 二〇二〇年一一月二五日 (三) 一四時五八分 (UTC) 提供。
2021社區願望清單調查
[纂]2021社區願望清單調查現已開放!這項調查是社區決定社區技術團隊在明年工作流程。我們鼓勵所有人在三〇 十一月的截止日期之前提交提案,或評論其他提案以幫助改善提案。
The communities will vote on the proposals between 八 十二月 and 二一 十二月.
社群技術團隊致力於為有經驗的維基媒體編輯者開發工具。您可以使用任何語言編寫建議,我們將為您翻譯建議。謝謝,我們期待著您的建議!
二〇二〇年一一月二〇日 (五) 〇四時四三分 (UTC)
Wiki of functions naming contest - Round 2
[纂]您好. Reminder: Please help to choose the name for the new Wikimedia wiki project - the library of functions. The finalist vote starts today. The finalists for the name are: Wikicode, Wikicodex, Wikifunctions, Wikifusion, Wikilambda, Wikimedia Functions. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at Meta-wiki. 感謝您! --Quiddity (WMF)
二〇二〇年一一月五日 (四) 二二時一〇分 (UTC)
2020 Coolest Tool Award Ceremony on December 11th
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Hello all,
The ceremony of the 2020 Wikimedia Coolest Tool Award will take place virtually on Friday, December 11th, at 17:00 GMT. This award is highlighting tools that have been nominated by contributors to the Wikimedia projects, and the ceremony will be a nice moment to show appreciation to the tools developers and maybe discover new tools!
You will find more information here about the livestream and the discussions channels. Thanks for your attention, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 二〇二〇年一二月七日 (一) 一〇時五五分 (UTC)
Call for insights on ways to better communicate the work of the movement
[纂]您好. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. 請協助翻譯成您使用的語言. A translatable version of this message is available on Meta. 感謝您!
Call for insights on ways to better communicate the work of the movement
The Movement Strategy recommendations published this year made clear the importance of establishing stronger communications within our movement. To this end, the Foundation wants to gather insights from communities on ways we all might more consistently communicate about our collective work, and better highlight community contributions from across the movement. Over the coming months, we will be running focus groups and online discussions to collect these insights. Visit the page on Meta-Wiki to sign up for a focus group or participate in the discussion.
ELappen (WMF) (talk) 二〇二〇年一一月一八日 (三) 一八時五六分 (UTC)
共和國大陸列傳分類事宜
[纂]大典素奉一文一類之則,洎今也有時矣。今傳記之部,有分類:中華人民共和國列傳,而又下屬各省列傳。然時不屬共和國者,宜如何分歸各地之類?身經三朝者,又宜如何歸類?諸君其議之。—关山 (修書) 二〇一九年六月二三日 (日) 一四時五七分 (UTC)
- 愚以為,去XX列傳之類,斯文皆為列傳,無論朝代諸國。--—启明(留言) 二〇一九年六月二六日 (三) 〇九時五三分 (UTC)
- 這個問題我在整理分類:中華人民共和國列傳時也發現了。照這麼看來一文一類確實是件難事,咱覺得可以找到一個不會重疊而又比較細緻的領域進行分類,比如職業、生年、卒年等。--薄荷糖批判 二〇一九年六月二八日 (五) 一四時四七分 (UTC)
- 以生卒年分,唯恐過細。—关山 (修書) 二〇一九年七月一〇日 (三) 一五時三二分 (UTC)
然則改中華人民共和國各省列傳之名,使各省列傳,悉屬中原列傳,如是「不屬共和國」之大陸人亦可歸類。於是凡中原之人,皆可屬朝代列傳、地方列傳兩類。如是可乎?—关山 (修書) 二〇一九年九月二三日 (一) 〇一時三二分 (UTC)
- 善哉(+) 可也。如是,則崇積一掃耳。--丁子君 (討論) 二〇一九年九月二三日 (一) 〇一時三六分 (UTC)
- 此舉(+) 可也,然是否過於粗略?--薄荷糖敬上 (議) 二〇一九年一〇月二九日 (二) 一四時二七分 (UTC)
維基大典:傳記--—启明(留言) 二〇二一年一月一九日 (二) 〇五時一六分 (UTC)
和文之字
[纂]{{按}}內引和文當用何字,新字體耶?舊字體耶?余以爲維基大典者當用正字,其可耶? KONNO Yumeto 二〇二〇年五月四日 (一) 〇八時三二分 (UTC)
- 愚以為依慣例引原文可矣。--丁子君(討論) 二〇二〇年五月四日 (一) 一四時四七分 (UTC)
- 若「《歡迎光臨有成教室》(和言『ようこそ実力至上主義の教室へ』)」者不必爲「《歡迎光臨有成教室》(和言『ようこそ實力至上主義の教室へ』)」?然則新字體,和之簡字也,旣不書華者,何書和者耶? KONNO Yumeto 二〇二〇年五月五日 (二) 〇五時〇三分 (UTC)
Flagged Revisions discussion at Meta
[纂]First of all, sorry for the English. There is currently a discussion about a proposal for flagged revisions for this language version of Wikipedia at Flagged revisions should display latest versions. All community members from this wiki are welcome to join. Voltairacus(討論) 二〇二〇年一二月九日 (三) 〇八時二七分 (UTC)
稟報諸君,余已覆函於上。--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二〇年一二月一〇日 (四) 〇七時四四分 (UTC)
2021年社群願望清單調查
[纂]歡迎全體已申請用戶投票2021年社群願望清單調查。從現在開始到21 12月,您可以無限制地投選符合您心意的願望。
該調查中收錄了有關為資深編輯者設計的新或改善的工具的願望。投票結束後,我們會盡力地滿足您們的願望。我們將從最受歡迎的願望開始。
我們是社群技術團隊,是維基媒體基金會中的其中一個團體。我們負責創建和改進在維基上編輯和審核用的工具。我們執行什麼項目,是依據社群願望調查的結果而決定的。每一年一次,您都可以提交您的願望。兩週後,您則可以投票投選您有興趣的願望。我們將從調查中選擇我們要開始實現哪一個願望。其中有些的願望或許會由自願開發者或其他團體實現。
我們等候您的投票。謝謝!
二〇二〇年一二月一一日 (五) 一五時四八分 (UTC)
農曆新年賀辭
[纂]時值臘月,新年將至,可否書賀辭于卷首,期限正月?另,春節、七夕書賀辭,可爲常態?--—启明(留言) 二〇二一年一月一九日 (二) 〇五時二三分 (UTC)
- 同意。--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二一年一月二八日 (四) 〇七時三四分 (UTC)
- 謹草撰對聯一幅,以賀新歲,暨賀維基二十年。
- 志學歲 天開文運撰大典
- 而冠年 人喜春陽賀維基
--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二一年一月二八日 (四) 〇八時〇九分 (UTC)
- (+) 可也,余以为,可置卷首,期限腊月二十三至二月初一。腊月二十三者,小年也,虽有二十四之说,然,宜早不宜迟。--—启明(留言) 二〇二一年一月二八日 (四) 一一時一七分 (UTC)
成之--—启明(留言) 二〇二一年二月四日 (四) 一〇時二一分 (UTC)
Moving Wikimania 2021 to a Virtual Event
[纂]您好. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. 請協助翻譯成您使用的語言. 感謝您!
Wikimania will be a virtual event this year, and hosted by a wide group of community members. Whenever the next in-person large gathering is possible again, the ESEAP Core Organizing Team will be in charge of it. Stay tuned for more information about how you can get involved in the planning process and other aspects of the event. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l.
ESEAP Core Organizing Team, Wikimania Steering Committee, Wikimedia Foundation Events Team, 二〇二一年一月二七日 (三) 一五時一六分 (UTC)
Wikimania 今年将于线上举办,由许多社群成员组织。当下一次大型线下集会变得可行,ESEAP 核心组织团队将负责。继续关注活动动态,了解您如何参与进活动的计划和其他方面。请在 wikimedia-l 阅读完整公告。
ESEAP 核心组织团队,Wikimania Steering Committee,维基媒体基金会活动团队,二〇二一年一月二七日 (三) 一五時一六分 (UTC)
翻译:User670839245(讨论|本地贡献|本地封禁 (本地封禁日志)) 二〇二一年一月三〇日 (六) 〇五時〇五分 (UTC)
Wikifunctions logo contest
[纂]二〇二一年三月二日 (二) 〇一時四七分 (UTC)
Global bot policy changes
[纂]您好!
I apologize for sending a message in English. 請協助翻譯成您使用的語言. According to the list, your wiki project is currently opted in to the global bot policy. As such, I want to let you know about some changes that were made after the global RfC was closed.
- Global bots are now subject to a 2 week discussion, and it'll be publicized via a MassMessage list, available at Bot policy/New global bot discussion on Meta. Please subscribe yourself or your wiki if you are interested in new global bots proposals.
- For a bot to be considered for approval, it must demonstrate it is welcomed in multiple projects, and a good way to do that is to have the bot flag on at least 5 wikis for a single task.
- The bot operator should make sure to adhere to the wiki's preference as related to the use of the bot flag (i.e., if a wiki doesn't want a bot to use the flag as it edits, that should be followed).
Thank you for your time.
Best regards,
—Thanks for the fish! talk•contribs 二〇二一年四月六日 (二) 一八時四八分 (UTC)
Line numbering coming soon to all wikis
[纂]From April 15, you can enable line numbering in some wikitext editors - for now in the template namespace, coming to more namespaces soon. This will make it easier to detect line breaks and to refer to a particular line in discussions. These numbers will be shown if you enable the syntax highlighting feature (CodeMirror extension), which is supported in the 2010 and 2017 wikitext editors.
More information can be found on this project page. Everyone is invited to test the feature, and to give feedback on this talk page.
-- Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 二〇二一年四月一二日 (一) 一五時〇九分 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Folklore 2021 is back!
[纂]請協助翻譯成您使用的語言
You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2021 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February.
You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.
Please support us in translating the project page and a banner message to help us spread the word in your native language.
Kind regards,
Wiki loves Folklore International Team
僕至大典一年有餘,深感積務之蕃與人力之匱。任巡査吏於通典,雖不敏也,敢爲有秩,以進大典。 Konno Yumeto 二〇二一年一月二七日 (三) 一一時一六分 (UTC)
- 選舉事宜,須言於此,有勞。--孔明居士(討論) 二〇二一年一月二八日 (四) 〇七時五六分 (UTC)
Project Grant Open Call
[纂]This is the announcement for the Project Grants program open call that started on January 11, with the submission deadline of February 10, 2021.
This first open call will be focussed on Community Organizing proposals. A second open call focused on research and software proposals is scheduled from February 15 with a submission deadline of March 16, 2021.
For the Round 1 open call, we invite you to propose grant applications that fall under community development and organizing (offline and online) categories. Project Grant funds are available to support individuals, groups, and organizations to implement new experiments and proven ideas, from organizing a better process on your wiki, coordinating a campaign or editathon series to providing other support for community building. We offer the following resources to help you plan your project and complete a grant proposal:
- Weekly proposals clinics via Zoom during the Open Call. Join us for #Upcoming_Proposal_Clinics|real-time discussions with Program Officers and select thematic experts and get live feedback about your Project Grants proposal. We’ll answer questions and help you make your proposal better. We also offer these support pages to help you build your proposal:
- Video tutorials for writing a strong application
- General planning page for Project Grants
- Program guidelines and criteria
Program officers are also available to offer individualized proposal support upon request. Contact us if you would like feedback or more information.
We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects. Put your idea into motion, and submit your proposal by February 10, 2021!
Please feel free to get in touch with questions about getting started with your grant application, or about serving on the Project Grants Committee. Contact us at projectgrants模板:Atwikimedia.org. Please help us translate this message to your local language. MediaWiki message delivery(討論) 二〇二一年一月二八日 (四) 〇八時〇一分 (UTC)
New Wikipedia Library Collections Available Now (February 2021)
[纂]Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing new free, full-access, accounts to reliable sources as part of our research access program. You can sign up to access research materials on the Library Card platform:
- Taxmann – Taxation and law database
- PNAS – Official journal of the National Academy of Sciences
- EBSCO – New Arabic and Spanish language databases added
We have a wide array of other collections available, and a significant number now no longer require individual applications to access! Read more in our blog post.
Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects!
- This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.
--二〇二一年二月一日 (一) 一二時五七分 (UTC)